CBS and NBC expected to be huge players for the next B12 contract in addition to ESPN and Fox”We would like to show you a description here but the site won’t allow us. ”MHver3 @MHver3. SMU especially due to political and religious connotations…table that fwiw. 1. @MHver3 BYU will raise that profile as they would come in and immediately be at least the second most valuable media rights member behind KU (as much as I hate that) due to their worldwide following. Quote Tweets. “ESPN has been quietly pushing for a B10/SEC Rose Bowl so don’t get too excited yet. I’ve maintained that schools are still waiting on the deal to come in before making a decision. We would like to show you a description here but the site won’t allow us. My source says it’s getting more and more likely a prodigal son returns. Corey Wishnia. ”Pac voted on SDSU and SMU again. Might Washington and Oregon be making the same offer? 🍎 😂 😂 😂. Huskies have come back to the table. If acc gets it first then B12 may have no need for further expansion at this time outside of maybe the. Murky version is: ducks are in a row but the can is getting kicked down the road. Show more replies. Also heard from a source today that someone in Colorado leadership told B12 that if Apple was going to save the Pac12 it would’ve been announced today…My source (who is talking to an AD at a pac school) says the deal with Espn/Amazon is worth $220m a year. 16 Jul 2023 00:27:09. Clash of Champioms “Bowl” (more on that in next tweet”” “@flugempire @YouTube The numbers are not where the presidents want them. Become an Annual VIP member today and get access. MHver3. Retweets. 82. 19 Feb 2023 01:05:52We would like to show you a description here but the site won’t allow us. Huge mistake. Log in. By my count there are 3 "Yes" teams in the ACC and 3 "Maybe" teams. The ESPN offer wasn’t $25m per school. I’m being told there will be a Big12 meeting that evening that could potentially have huge ramifications for the Big12 and the college sports landscape in general. Sign upAt this point there’s probably more votes of no confidence for Kliavkoff than there are yes votes for SDSU. " / Twitter. ”““We haven't decided if we're going shopping there yet,"-Kliavkoff, spewing venomously at the conference that just recently decided a merger with his conference wasn’t financially attractive. Look for a thread soon. Valuation of per school is higher if omitting 2 of the 6 because the projected media dollars are very similar with or without those 2. 6. MHver3 @MHver3. @MHver3 But when you factor in possible matchups, multiple time zones, and other data there’s a strong belief from media consultants that the 6 PAC schools joining B12 could see their collective value closer to the full $250m yearly that ESPN was willing to pay all 10 in a vacuum @MHver3 Jul 27, 2022 If we receive applications from all 4 of the corners schools (we already have one from SDSU from last year) it’s likely we initially only invite 2 and then wait for tv negotiations to open up before adding whomever the other 2 will be. And they all already know the current numbers. All 3 tiers. Replying to. Sign up“60 seconds to PACmidnight. MHver3 @MHver3. @MHver3 17h Amazon only wants the top game every week fb and bb from the PAC12 and is offering $100m a year for 2 years with an option for 2 more years and a review of the terms if the viewership is there. 3. We aren’t privately funded like Stanford is. Current B12 expansion landscape: Colorado and UConn have been completely vetted by the conference and networks and B12 will receive pro-rata for both. Memphis and Boise(FB only) are definitely the front runners. We would like to show you a description here but the site won’t allow us. Louis Oliverio. But simply never happens. Tomorrows another day!”This merger would trigger pro-rata for espn contract and allow fox to reopen their contract-Amazon could be a part of this as well from what I’m hearing. 13 Apr 2023 02:07:57 @MHver3 They're all signing a shorter GoR, it's not so much giving up as letting the landscape settle and use the time to build their best case to join on the field. and @Mountaineer_Ste. Nothing will happen until GK presents the deal to Pac12 presidents. MHver3 @MHver3 Hearing from B12 contacts in communication with Pac12 contacts that AZ and Colorado have NOT committed to signing a GOR and will not agree to sign one without a complete deal in front of them that is equitable and on par with B12/ACC. But not the question asked. Replying to. Boise is not completely off the table in football. We don’t have the endowment they have. ”“So ESPN takes more games than the current contractual obligation and uses them in the late window. BYU has requested an exclusion to allow certain games of theirs to be simulcast on their network. Replying to @Brewenor. WVU alone makes like $10m from theirs a year. ”GK about to get shipped to China. “And hearing that Washington State, Oregon State, and Cal have reached out to the Mountain West to talk about a landing spot. If B12 adds the right 6 PAC schools it can see its yearly payouts go above that $35m per school number the way the current deal is structured. You are just regurgitating what you see on your twitter TL. 12:57 PM · Jul 27, 2021 · Twitter for iPhone Sorry for deleting the previous tweet. MHver3 @MHver3. AZ too. After months of back and forth, with things really heating up since the NCAA tourney started, looks like BY is very close to getting 2 new members a for B12. ”On the eve of a significant B12 meeting got a few tidbits to offer up. 🤷🏻♂️ I honestly feel sorry for most of the schools in the PAC. Sign up“Aresco has a petition with the signatures of every G5 school president and G5 conference commissioner to deliver to the FTC complaining of anti-competitive practices and collusion of the selection committee. @MHver3. Staples: The realignment battle for No. “@BobOThomson Yes. ”Log in. 22 Feb 2023 21:50:26Reposting this again at the request of my source with alternate phrasing: Colorado board will meet Monday to informally poll where votes would lie for leaving PAC. WVU also saw success going from Independent to BIgEast. “@DwayneF77 I’ll say it one more time. 8 of them are Power5 schools located west of Texas. Gonzaga is in for basketball. one president is telling B12 contacts that there is a feeling GK will ask for an extension on the 4/15 deadline We would like to show you a description here but the site won’t allow us. Also-though much quieter-there will be some zig-Zagging happening this week as well I’m my home state. Now it’s been twice verified. Learn to create and view Twitter threads to provide additional context or updates. 17. We would like to show you a description here but the site won’t allow us. Quote Tweets. “@BobOThomson I don’t really have a source close to that program but I can just reiterate what I tweeted a couple of weeks ago: Utah isn’t a priority and is very low on B12 radar”“@RChalk94 I’m not trying to get anyone to believe me. Cliff notes of meetings: Colorado will rejoin the B12. ”Small PAC tidbit: the unequal revenue sharing model being discussed now would be based on achievement in all sanctioned sports. Conversation“Very risky for PAC to walk from what espn was offering but desperate times…”“@bigg_t08 I don’t want to predict anything about what the final offer will be because so much can change. ” Confirming through my B12 contacts that according to what has been shared between BY and a few PAC presidents that CW and ION are indeed in talks for PAC12 broadcasting rights. See new Tweets“And B12 may just add those 3 and stop and wait to see what happens 5-10 years from now. Something new that moves forward and forgets the past. THE OUTLAW @Cougarsportsfan · 19m. Log in. I’d be thrilled if Colorado and Arizona came. ”“My source just informed me that Arizona, Colorado, Utah, and Arizona State have applied for membership with the B12. 1. bob trollsby. ” @MHver3 Jul 22 How BIgEast conference’s demise as a power conference is playing a role in Big12’s current thought process regarding expansion, tv contract, and GOR. I’ll update as I get more info. We would like to show you a description here but the site won’t allow us. That’s all I’ve got. MHver3, a Twitter user who posts controversial and speculative tweets about college football, claims that BYU and Houston are the initial targets for the Big 12's. 6. “The Buffs are an inevitability now. Sign up“Called my source. Clash of Champioms “Bowl” (more on that in next tweet””MHver3 @MHver3. “RUMOR: Pac12 offer from ESPN: $220 million per year, no expansion. Sign up“I’ve got a pretty big scoop to share that I’ve been sitting on for a few days. B12 has been told by sources from WSU and Oregon State that they will be submitting applications to the B12 pending how successful the first round of merger talks go. And they all already know the current numbers. 33. 21. ”“@GibeiiBrewsong @USAdebtcrisis I say 6 are leaving but ORWA will try to keep them all together under the ridiculous uneven revenue sharing model espn is pushing but that will not sit with the 4 corners schools and they will bolt which will lead to ORWA bolting as well. Once again I return from a long absence and bring you info. We would like to show you a description here but the site won’t allow us. "Hearing that UConn is leveraging for an all sports invite from B12…and BY and networks are listening. OMG I was wrong. We would like to show you a description here but the site won’t allow us. “@vikingburner Seton Hall is no longer an option. 5m. One that seems to have a lot of steam is that Pac12 and Big12 leadership will be meeting Tuesday to discuss a full-on merger. All stuff you heard here from me way before it hit the press. Boise. @MHver3. 2. ”“@ChrisRPhillips B10 dreams for Oregon and Washington left and went to the Bears in Chicago. Oils be basketball/Olympic only additions before that happens though. Also the FB CCG. 31 May 2023 13:12:44. 1 — and for No. That’s it. That’s it. Factions have formed. ACC adding west coast schools could severely affect B12 expansion plan because its really just about that late window. It’s the eve of yet another deadline for Pac12 media deal to be presented to members. We would like to show you a description here but the site won’t allow us. ”“How BIgEast conference’s demise as a power conference is playing a role in Big12’s current thought process regarding expansion, tv contract, and GOR. It actually decreases it. “Pac12 fans should redirect their anger at the B10 and USC and UCLA. Previous offer for 24. But it’s looking like B12 needs to make the next move. FSU is the most attractive maybe. We currently get about $4m for that same content. @MHver3 But when you factor in possible matchups, multiple time zones, and other data there’s a strong belief from media consultants that the 6 PAC schools. “And hearing that Washington State, Oregon State, and Cal have reached out to the Mountain West to talk about a landing spot. A thread is a series Tweets from one person. “Utah hasn’t withdrawn their application but they do seem less urgent and seem to be teetering. ”We would like to show you a description here but the site won’t allow us. If acc gets it first then B12 may have no need for further expansion at this time outside of maybe the AZ schools (because there is value in those markets) MHver3 @MHver3 GK is currently trying to Frankenstein a mess of a deal with ESPN getting 1 FB game per week at about $5m per game and 3 BB games per week at about $1m per week. “@BobOThomson I mean it’d be a fun game to play on Saturdays 🤷🏻♂️. 06 Mar 2023 18:13:11Log in. @MHver3. I have nothing to gain-no monetization, no click bait links, no podcast. “I’m hearing several Pac12(-2)schools are in complete pandemonium tonight. Current B12 expansion landscape: Colorado and UConn have been completely vetted by the conference and networks and B12 will receive pro-rata for both. Appx $75m per year. The real question is who is number 2?”“Neat fact about the B12 tv extension: the can open it up for renegotiation if they add a minimum of 2 schools that play in the pacific time zone. ”ACC again proposed an aggressive expansion to 20 teams and has been talking with OR/WA/Stanford/and Cal. Sign upSee new Tweets. twitter. ACC adding west coast schools could severely affect B12 expansion plan because its really just about that late window. Looks like their fate is in Amazon’s hands. ”Log in. I don’t think anyone is getting in with a negotiated out clause. Gonzaga better fit for Pac. that will be accurate. 5% each. @MHver3 FWIW my sources are telling me that FOX is NOT actively negotiating with PAC. Once the ACC declines the ridiculous terms of the offer ND is free to pursue other options. We currently get about $4m for that same content. 11:22 PM · Jul 20, 2022 · Twitter for iPhone. MHver3 @MHver3 Hearing from B12 contacts in communication with Pac12 contacts that AZ and Colorado have NOT committed to signing a GOR and will not agree to sign one without a complete deal in front of them that is equitable and on par with B12/ACC. The only 2 schools in the PAC that B12 has had no open dialogue with are the Cali schools. FWIW my sources are telling me that FOX is NOT actively negotiating with PAC. There’s a catch. " Arizona is the wildcard that could keep UConn from getting an all sports invite. Transfer ownership of Pac12 networks to espn. We’ve spoiled schools with Tier3 independence. “Morning tidbits: Fox is done with Pac12 as an entity and has no plans to even bid on a new tv contract. #PACinShambles”“ACC hoped that by getting Stanford it would compel ND to join. “@RChalk94 But Washington and Oregon add $60+ million per year apiece to a tv deal when you look at the data” “As I type this the Arizona schools are discussing exit strategy and AZ is making their case for autonomy to decide conference affiliation (in case they are the only one that gets an invite). 2. ACCN/Pac12N broadcasting agreement talks fell apart when the Comcast Pac12 scandal broke. If 4 teams get taken from the ACC by the Power 2, there is a good chance FSU is not one of them. ”Log in. 2. ”We would like to show you a description here but the site won’t allow us. Likely not enough votes there to oust him yet but the cracks are showing. "“@vikingburner @RockCat75 @CFBKnights Replace FSU with Miami and you are correct in that second sentence”“The 3 that want to jump to B12 are fed up with PAC leadership. @MHver3. 9. “RUMOR: Pac12 offer from ESPN: $220 million per year, no expansion. Still planning for a possible defection or 3. MHver3 @MHver3. Pac12 additions in all sports are priority number 1. The third is a big market school with a great history that has underperformed in recent years. one president is telling B12 contacts that there is a feeling GK. MHver3 @MHver3. But I would be remiss to not leave a parting gift. 131. If Ohio State and Mich or Penn St then Big10 schools would try to bounce for $50mil raise, to new conference. ”“B1G without a Notre Dame addition has reached the point of diminishing returns. Air Force and Colorado State have also been in contact with Kliavkoff. @MHver3. Most recent figure I’ve heard for Pac12 is just south of $20m per year per school after broadcasting expenses are covered in house. The Big East commissioner ran the conference like a basketball conference and treated football as a second class citizen, which is why Miami, VT, Boston College then WVU, Pitt and Syracuse left. The PAC show of unity tweet…. Most of it was in depth financials done by our media consultants. Take it with a grain of salt-not my usual source. ”Log in. Retweets. Replying to . @xtmountain. ConversationWe would like to show you a description here but the site won’t allow us. Possibly during the NCAA tournament but it could be immediately following. Conversation“Slow day for info and the weekend will most likely be the same, so here’s a quote I thought I’d share for discussion: "Yeah, I know where the money is " Yormark when asked about tv money during an interview with 365 Sports. That’s all I’ve got. It got nasty from what I’ve been told. 3 — is made for TV. The only true and reliable "source'' yet to surface on the Pac-12's future. @MHver3 The worst-case scenario for WVU, of course, is the Big 10 standing pat and the Pac 12, still with UW and ORE, picking off several Big 12 teams and leaving the rest of the Big 12 in the wilderness. Hearing that GK is telling some of the PAC presidents that he may not have any new developments in the tv negotiations to present at next weeks meeting. Even if espn is trying to call this something else (licensing fee for streaming content)”We would like to show you a description here but the site won’t allow us. Washington State puts up shockingly good TV numbers. @MHver3. Quote Tweets. ”“@Lake_Cowboy @KDVanderpool We had a good one with TX. Thanks for the heads up from those of you who wrote me. By my count there are 3 "Yes" teams in the ACC and 3 "Maybe" teams. #Pac12DoomsdayClock”Sign up. Sign up“So my new source just told me some of the terms to NDs offer to the ACC: 7 conference games a year with 4 of them home games, 1st choice scheduling, not signing the GOR for football, and something to do with eliminating the exit fee from the charter. How to create a thread on Twitter and how to view. @MHver3 17h Amazon only wants the top game every week fb and bb from the PAC12 and is offering $100m a year for 2 years with an option for 2 more years and a review of the terms if the viewership is there. Oregon, Washington, Stanford, and one other might be. We would like to show you a description here but the site won’t allow us. And CFP is going to probably double for everyone soon. Oregon, Washington, Stanford, and one other might be the best move. (Read full thread)”We would like to show you a description here but the site won’t allow us. Sign up“@tsaundry13 Too early to tell. Likes. I actually don’t want more western schools. ”“@IceDevilCA @TheAPBerry I was meaning had the second ACC raid not occurred. @MHver3 So if B1G Stops, then it seems the most likely outcome is the B12 raids the remaining members. There’s no reason to add anyone else to dilute the tv money just to have an even number. ” MHver3 @MHver3. Quote. 11:57 PM · Apr 17, 2023 @MHver3 Question for conversation: This Century-Has there been any case where after switching from one BCS/P5 league to another that a school has seen better success on the field? Miami, VT, Neb, Mizzou, Colorado, WVU, Louisville, have all fallen off the map since their moves. As soon as I’m allowed to it’ll be up. We make more than that currently for all of tier3. Feb 21. This meeting is supposed to introduce a “new” interested party to possibly sell their Tier 2 package to for a higher rate than what Amazon is offering. CBS and NBC expected to be huge players for the next B12 contract in addition to ESPN and Fox” MHver3 @MHver3 One final tidbit this afternoon:PAC is currently trying to be as attractive as they can while they see what their media rights could be if they stayed together. Found. 35 seconds to PACmidnight. Beating out even the 2004-2011 BIgEast. 30 Mar 2023 18:54:47Gonna say it again for everyone in the back playing with graphs and charts on Excel: Fox has already approved pro rata for the B12 to add specific teams so they will not get “only $20m” they will get the full share. “@ConfCommandos Schwartzwalder wasn’t really a ratings boon after McNabb finished his 10 year career at Cuse though. PAC media: Hearing that no concrete numbers were presented and that the mystery partner that was coming back to the table was ION. MHver3 @MHver3. 159. 31 May 2023 12:38:21. I’d prefer B12 waits for eventual ACC poaching and go and get our old BIgEast mates. MHver3 @MHver3. Replying to @MHver3. It’s not the B12s fault that we see an opportunity to strengthen ourselves now. Phillips had a call this afternoon with Kliavkoff and Yormark/Bowlsby about an alliance of the 3 conferences. “So this was considered sensitive info for awhile but the silence of these 2 universities is about to be over. Sign upFwiw I’m hearing the ION Tv thing was a red herring fed to McMurphy and Kliavkoff is only a few days away from having 2 final proposals in hand to take to his schools for voting. Their additions brought stability. OMG I was wrong. Throwing darts at walls still, MHVer3?@MHver3. “Let tidbit of the evening: Big12 currently has 20 schools in contact with them regarding membership discussions in various phases of progression. Washington was their next choice. 7:34 PM · Jul 20, 2022 MHver3. Guess the state of AZ to BIG12 has died down though. @MHver3 Jul 27, 2022 Media consultants don’t think we can get revenue positive (from current projections) adding all 4 corners schools unless there is a bidding war. It would seem inevitable that at some point u will say something… I mean, anything. We would like to show you a description here but the site won’t allow us. OKST has been too one sided lately to be a rivalry-hopefully we can change that. 5 billion a year with their next contract (and BTN) and will now wait and watch the landscape. Replying to. ”MHver3 on Twitter: "CU and AZ are NOT worried about exposure by joining B12 as most if their games would be lye window games so that report is most likely coming from Utah or AZSU. “@AveCope Big12 believes it will be able to offer $36-40m with OR and WA plus control of Tier3 tv rights. ”Log in. If B10 is still shopping then that means NBC is getting aggressive with trying to get in on their contract and it’s driving $ higher. Idea:…Pls tweet what the time will in 5The soon to be PAC defections are “on the precipice” of sealing the deal. Army/Navy make the most sense from a. ”An excellent read that was just sent to me that really summarizes what has transpired in the past year and where we stand now-though if you’ve been following me you already know this tale. An olive branch was extended by GK to BY with terms that favor B12 this time. ” “@BroncoJ415 @MrSamStone3 There’s a lot of things on the table. B12 has a chance to get into 20m households with additions. $320m per year for 12 years. Retweets. AZ has and AZSU problem. If it takes their exit for Cal, Stan, Utah,. So at least more spots open. MHver3 @MHver3. Sources from Colorado are telling B12 contacts that no deal is being presented tomorrow. It was $24. We would like to show you a description here but the site won’t allow us. Mountaineer Steve. Some in the PAC are trying to push a couple of the others out in an effort to add 2 “better” markets for tv and recruiting without increasing the mouths to feed. The BIG12 would be stupid to go. We are indeed talking to Rich Rodriguez to return to WVU but as of now it’s only talks. No football home for Uconn in exchange either. Hearing ESPN is taking (or already has taken) their $250m total package offer to the Pac12 off the table. The truth is that’s where the PAC is valued at right now because the bottom half of the remnants are really dragging down the top half in. You ready for this? Oregon/Washington 16. If you start to hear reports of a PAC media offer for $25-28m per school trickle out keep a couple of things in mind: 14 Mar 2023 14:40:40@MHver3 · 1h. Likes. Things have escalated. Amazon gets more first choice. I’m being told there will be a Big12 meeting that evening that could potentially have huge ramifications for the Big12 and the college sports landscape in general. 8 of them are. ”Log in. They want no part of unequal revenue sharing. “Thank you to everyone for your words of support as my family deals with the loss of a very close loved one. and @TheAPBerry. Grant of Rights required or will come with a clause for reductions assigning each school a percentage of what their worth is to the overall contract. ”“@MHver3 @TGBN1997 Let's just say for some reason any combination of 3 of the 4 corner schools join the Big 12 and say Utah, Oregon, Washington hold out for greener pastures, dose Memphis or Boise stand a chance of being the 4th add in that round or does the big 12 stand pat and wait for more moves”Log in. But it was requested by the source who shared the info with me. “Hearing BY is meeting with a school president from that conference on the pacific coast. It’s to actively pursue expansion and re-form the expansion committee. Houston and BYU applications are in. and @Mountaineer_Ste. I was responding to a person that shared an article that AZ was meeting with B12 on Tuesday. Colorado feels like they are on an island and being pushed out. When information hits I have a duty to share (even if the text comes at 12:15am and I have to work at 6am!). Well a big aspect of this programming and a key part of ND working close with B12 is throwing a lifeline to Stanford. 2. If you start to hear reports of a PAC media offer for $25-28m per school trickle out keep a couple of things in mind: 14 Mar 2023 14:40:40 @MHver3 Don’t underestimate a possible Pac12 invite for Airforce either. 10 Feb 2023 03:36:01Checked with my source regarding B10 proposing half share for ORWA (per Colin Cowherd). ”“Just heard that Yormark meeting with Knight was basically Knight pleading to Yormark to keep the merger talks going and make it happen. 27. I have heard that if WA and OR stay that that could possibly keep Stanford and Cal in the fold-I’ve also heard Stanford is very close to going Indy. ”Bedtime snippet: I’ve been exchanging DMs with someone employed at a P12 athletic department. We would like to show you a description here but the site won’t allow us. @xtmountain. Shouldn’t be an issue since these are not revenue sports. Interestingly enough there is another school in these discussions with Boise that is interested in joining just Olympic sports…”“@tsaundry13 You’ve convinced me. ”Uconn is going to win the championship. AZ has not been completely vetted like the other two but since they are current P5 B12 would get Prorata. @MHver3. 5% each. @MHver3. ”“B10 has told Washington and Oregon that they have put expansion on hold indefinitely. ”Hearing GK struck out with the Amazon/ESPN deal and it’s not even going to the table for a vote-presidents asking him to go back to the networks and negotiate it higher. UConn is still in the air as there could maybe be an all sports invite coming if the right circumstances occur but may be a bball only.